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-I'm not saying Pre Time Skip Akainu is much more powerful than Aokiji. I'm not sure what you mean when you say Aokiji gets Akainu to the point where he can finish him off. Finish him off with what?
-I didn't say that proves Shanks is as powerful as Old Whitebeard. I simply listed it as a great feat.
-The Straw Hat has been in the hands of the leader of every generation. Why would that be different with Shanks?
-Where is it stated that Akainu fighting anyone in the war at that point would have gotten him expelled from the Marines? Kizaru and Aokiji, who weren't around the area Shanks was in at the time, actually continued fighting. They didn't get expelled from the Marines for doing that.
-You're essentially just saying that the Red Hair Commanders in general are more powerful than the Whitebeard Commanders. Why would that apply to the Red Hair Commanders but not Shanks?
-My bad, I thought you said that Naruto surpasses everyone by a significant amount. However, that would then have nothing to do with what I'm saying. Luffy respects Shanks because he's powerful. What Luffy knows about Shanks at the time doesn't really matter. My point is that Luffy is using Shanks as a benchmark, and Oda writing that as the first chapter and making Shanks a Yonkou later on says a lot.
Posts from the previous version of the thread:
-I'm not saying Pre Time Skip Akainu is much more powerful than Aokiji. I'm not sure what you mean when you say Aokiji gets Akainu to the point where he can finish him off. Finish him off with what?
-I didn't say that proves Shanks is as powerful as Old Whitebeard. I simply listed it as a great feat.
-The Straw Hat has been in the hands of the leader of every generation. Why would that be different with Shanks?
-Where is it stated that Akainu fighting anyone in the war at that point would have gotten him expelled from the Marines? Kizaru and Aokiji, who weren't around the area Shanks was in at the time, actually continued fighting. They didn't get expelled from the Marines for doing that.
-You're essentially just saying that the Red Hair Commanders in general are more powerful than the Whitebeard Commanders. Why would that apply to the Red Hair Commanders but not Shanks?
-My bad, I thought you said that Naruto surpasses everyone by a significant amount. However, that would then have nothing to do with what I'm saying. Luffy respects Shanks because he's powerful. What Luffy knows about Shanks at the time doesn't really matter. My point is that Luffy is using Shanks as a benchmark, and Oda writing that as the first chapter and making Shanks a Yonkou later on says a lot.
Posts from the previous version of the thread:
I would like to see what people think about power levels once more.
Rank the characters that you see on Pirate King, Yonko and Admiral level.
(You are free to add some ranks between if you think it's necessary, I excluded rank like Fleet Admiral since I believe it hold same strength as Yonko and First Mate of Yonko crew holds same power as Admiral IMO)
Gol D. Roger
Shiki
Edward Newgate
Marshall D. Teach
Kaido
Big Mam
Shanks
Akainu
Aokiji
Kizaru
Fujitorra
Silver Rayleigh
Sengoku
Marco
Monkey D. Garp
Dragon
Those are the big guns in the series, I am not quite sure just how strong the Gorosei are, if they can even fight to begin with. We only assume they can because of that one guy with the sword. Its hard to put an order with them but I would guess it goes something like:
1) Gol D. Roger
2) Edward Newgate (Prime)
3) Monkey D. Garp (Prime)
4) Shiki The Golden Lion
---------Small but notable gap-------
5) Kaido The Beast
6) Akainu
7) Aokiji
8) Dragon
9) Shanks (2-Arms)
10) Sengoku (Prime)
---------Small but notable gap--------
11) Marshall D. Teach
12) Silver Rayleigh (Prime)
13) Dracule Mihawk
14) Big Mam
15) Kizaru
16) Marco
17) Fujitorra
----------Small gap---------
17) Sabo
18) Donquixote Doflamingo
19) Monkey D. Luffy
20) Diamond Jozu
Characters I expect to grow stronger out of these are:
Akainu
Marshall D. Teach
Fujitorra
Sabo
Monkey D. Luffy
The only characters I took a complete wild guess with no info whatsoever are Dragon and Big Mam, so he can be higher or lower in ranking. He has a huge powerful army but he never struck me as a complete powerhouse, though I do expect him to still be insanely powerful. I would also like to point out that unless it specifically says that there is a gap, the gap between numbers is anywhere from very slight to almost completely nonexistent.
Pirate King Level:
Gol D. Roger and Edward Newgate
Shiki
Monkey D. Garp (prime)
Sengoku (prime)
Edward Newgate (old)
Monkey D. Dragon
Yonko Level/Fleet Admiral Level:
Shanks / Dracule Mihawk / Silvers Rayleight (prime)
Monkey D. Garp (old)
Sakazuki
Kuzan
Kaido
Charlotte Linlin
Marshall D. Teach
Sengoku (old)
Admiral Level/First Mate of Yonko crew Level:
Marco
Borsalino
Don Chinjao (prime)
Silvers Rayleight (old)
Issho
Sabo
Donquioxote Doflamingo
Kong should be somewhere there by not exactly sure where.
Portgas D. Ace - as was already said in the manga, in prime Ace would be PK level
Monkey D. Luffy - PK level by EoS
Shillew - no much information about him, by assume he is Admiral level PTS
Trafalgar D. Water Law - if he survives by EoS Yonko level at least
Eustass Kid - same as Law
Roronoa Zoro - Yonko level by EoS
Sanji - Admiral level by EoS.
X Drake - Only one of the Supernovas who was capable of fighting Pacifista alone, not sure which level he could be but I think he deserve to be by EoS.
Marshall D. Teach - PK level by end of the series
Marco - I could see him being Yonko level by EoS
Sabo - if he survives long enough I think he will go up.
And there are Unknown Shichibukai (stated in the film by Oda that was capable of cutting Admiral's arm) and Unknown Admiral who should be in the list when we see them.
S+ Tier
Dragon/Shanks/Roger/Prime Whitebeard/Possibly some members of the Gorosei.
S Tier
Old Whitebeard/Kong/Prime Garp.
Prime Sengoku/Kaidou.
Prime Rayleigh.
Possibly some members of the Gorosei.
S- Tier
Current Akainu/Current Blackbeard/Big Mam/Old Garp.
Possibly some members of the Gorosei.
A+ Tier
Beckman/Mihawk.
A Tier
Pre Time Skip Akainu/Marco/Yasopp.
A- Tier
Sabo/Doflamingo/Pre Time Skip Quake Blackbeard/Current Shiryu/Fujitora/Kizaru/Aokiji/Lucky Roo/Old Rayleigh.
Luffy.
Jozu.
B+ Tier
Zoro/Current Kid/Hancock/Prime Chinjao/Current Pizarro.
B Tier
Pre Quake Blackbeard.
Ace.
Magellan.
Current Devon.
B- Tier
Kuma.
Current Law.
Kyros.
Vergo.
Current San Juan Wolf.
Hakuba.
Enel.
Vista.
C+ Tier
Ivankov.
Current Drake.
Pica.
Current Laffitte.
Current Hawkins.
Current Augur.
Current Vasco Shot.
Current Sentoumaru.
C Tier
Diamante.
Jinbe.
Bartolomeo/Cavendish (with Hakuba)/Current Smoker/Current Sanji/Pre Time Skip Sentoumaru.
Trebol/Old Chinjao.
Current Killer.
Current Doc Q..
Current Burgess.
Current Bonney.
C- Tier
Squardo.
Oars Jr..
Tamago.
Pekoms.
Current Apoo.
Current Bepo.
High Level Whitebeard Allies.
D+ Tier
Whitebeard Commanders 6-9.
Mid Level Whitebeard Allies.
Pre Time Skip Kid.
Enies Lobby Luffy/Cavendish (without Hakuba)/Pre Time Skip Smoker/Crocodile/John Giant/Current Chopper/Current Robin.
Current Jean Bart/Current Sai/Lao G/Dellinger.
D Tier
Momonga.
Pre Time Skip Law/Gladius/Doberman/Lucci.
Current Heat.
Onigumo.
Lacroix.
Jean Ango.
Whitebeard Commanders 10-12.
Kanjurou.
Kinemon.
Caesar Clown.
Ronse.
Suleiman.
Ideo.
Bastille.
Whitebeard Commanders 13-16.
Low Level Whitebeard Allies.
Current Brook/Current Franky/Moriah.
Current Wire.
Hack.
Pre Time Skip Drake.
Pre Time Skip Hawkins.
Pre Time Skip Jean Bart.
Senor Pink.
Strawberry.
D- Tier
Yamakaji.
Pre Time Skip Bonney.
Pre Time Skip Apoo.
E+ Tier
Hajrudin/Machvise.
Current Bellamy.
Bluegilly.
Dalmatian.
Baby 5.
Stainless.
Average Vice Admiral.
Pre Time Skip Bege/Pre Time Skip Urouge/Enies Lobby Zoro/Pre Time Skip Killer.
Sugar.
E Tier
Current Usopp/Current Nami.
Monet.
Kaku.
Rolling Logan.
Comil.
Mozambia.
Oars.
Pre Time Skip Bepo.
Maynard.
Cancer.
E- Tier
Acilia.
Elizabello.
Orlumbus.
Enies Lobby Sanji.
Jabra.
Current Tashigi.
Rebecca.
Buffalo.
Jora.
Jeet.
Abdullah.
F+ Tier
Blueno.
Lepanto.
Boo.
F Tier
Kalifa.
Skypiea Luffy.
Skypiea Zoro.
Ohm.
Gan Fall.
Wiper.
Shura
Pre Time Skip Hina.
Brogy/Dorry.
Pre Time Skip Penguin.
Pre Time Skip Shachi.
F- Tier
Satori.
East Blue Luffy.
East Blue Zoro.
Mr. 1.
Arlong.
Average Marine Rear Admiral.
Kumadori.
Skypiea Sanji.
G+ Tier
Gedatsu.
Ryuma.
East Blue Sanji.
Mr. 2.
Pre Time Skip Robin.
Krieg.
Pre Time Skip Franky.
Fukurou.
Pre Time Skip Bellamy.
Absalom.
Average Marine Commodore.
Oimo.
Kashi.
G Tier
Pell.
Dalton.
Pre Time Skip Brook.
Mr. 3.
Pre Time Skip Tashigi.
Kuro.
Average Marine Captain.
Enies Lobby Nami.
Kuroobi.
Sarkies.
Miss Doublefinger.
Gin.
Enies Lobby Usopp.
Perona.
Mr. 4.
Nero.
Yama.
Hatchan.
G- Tier
Chaka.
Jango.
Mr. 5.
Buggy.
Miss Goldenweek.
Cabaji.
Miss Merrychristmas.
Pearl Jam.
East Blue Usopp/East Blue Nami.
Chew.
Miss Valentine.
Mohji.
Something like that.
Only living characters. I'm not going to assume Kaidou is the strongest. Yet.
Top Tier
01. Dragon
02. Shanks
03. Akainu
04. Kaidou
05. Big Mam
06. Garp
07. Mihawk
08. Kizaru
09. Aokiji
10. Sengoku
11. Fujitora
12. Rayleigh
13. Beckman
14. Marco
15. Sabo
16. Jozu
High Tier
17. Doflamingo
18. Vista
19. Luffy
20. Law
21. Kidd
22. Drake
23. Zoro
24. Hancock
25. Burgess
26. Hawkins
27. Vergo
28. Magellan
29. Urouge
30. Killer
31. Sanji
32. Jinbei
33. Smoker
34. Apoo
35. Ivankov
36. Pica
37. Chinjao
38. Capone
39. Bonney
40. Bastille
41. Diamante
42. Trebol
43. Barto
44. Lao G
45. Gladius
46. Cavendish
47. Caesar
I don't understand the logic behind Aokiji being this far behind Akainu. They are portrayed as dead equals (Akainu having a extremely marginal advantage) to the point that both their powers occupy exactly 50% of the island each, they fought for 10 days for crying out loud.
Also, can someone enlighten me on what Shanks has done to put him so high on everyone's list? His best feat is stopping one of Akainus attacks, something Aokiji did for 10 days.